Why does EventSub send channel:subscribe events for resubs when the documentation says it does not?

[BarryCarlyon]

@Gambloide

Source: EventSub Subscription Types | Twitch Developers

What EXACTLY does this mean?

channel.subscribe - the user changed from a non sub to a sub.

@Gambloide

My understanding of what a resub i

Resub - a user shared in chat their 2/3/4 month streak happened and left a message in chat to celebrate this.

@Gambloide

Yet I receive this event for subscriptions of users who e.g. had their first subs be gifted, let run them out and then subscribe on their own.

Becuase they did the following

• changed from a non sub to a sub
• gift expired, they changed from a sub to a not sub
• they becamse a sub again via some medium

A resub is an announcment of a continued sub without a break in the middle.

@Gambloide

This behavior makes it impossible to differentiate between fresh subs and resubs with EventSub, since channel.subscription.message events trigger only when shared by the user,

Correct.

And me and Soaryn have both written user voices to change/adjust the eventsub data source to be more representative of what people need.

TLDR:

channel.subscribe - the user changed fron non sub to a sub (a state change)
channel.subscription.message - the user celebrated their continued/uninteruppted subscription (or they restarted their subscription within the grace period, this happens a lot with prime subscribers)