# No USERNOTICE messages? (Subcribers on PubSub?) **URL:** \ **Category:** API\ **Created:** [May 29, 2017, 9:29am UTC](https://staging-discuss.dev.twitch.com/t/no-usernotice-messages-subcribers-on-pubsub/10509 "2017-05-29T09:29:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![cronzzz](https://d1d6mrmdu7ztse.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/staging-discuss.dev.twitch.com/cronzzz/32/2512_2.png) [@cronzzz](https://staging-discuss.dev.twitch.com/u/cronzzz)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 9:29am UTC](https://staging-discuss.dev.twitch.com/t/no-usernotice-messages-subcribers-on-pubsub/10509/1 "2017-05-29T09:29:23Z")
Why is it possible that i don’t see USERNOTICE messages with sub/resub at all? I’m connected to chat NOT as streamer, but as bot-user with MOD. Should i connect to IRC as streamer to see those messages? I did `CAP REQ :twitch.tv/tags` and receiving messages with bits and other stuffs as expected in raw messages, but there are no any sub-related messages. I didnt found anything related rights for that. Any ideas? At least where should i look for about this issue? ---
**Author:** ![BarryCarlyon](https://d1d6mrmdu7ztse.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/staging-discuss.dev.twitch.com/barrycarlyon/32/253_2.png) [@BarryCarlyon](https://staging-discuss.dev.twitch.com/u/BarryCarlyon)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 11:31am UTC](https://staging-discuss.dev.twitch.com/t/no-usernotice-messages-subcribers-on-pubsub/10509/2 "2017-05-29T11:31:37Z")
Hmm the docs say you only need Tags capability. But everything I’ve ever done using USERNOTICE I’ve requested the commands cap too. So not sure if it’s a bug or not, but then I don’t consume USERNOTICE anymore I’m pure Pubsub. So add the commands cap and see if it works for you? If could also be a problem with your IRC parser, has it been modified to handle IRCv3 data properly (but yes I do see you are interrogating RAW)? ---
**Author:** ![cronzzz](https://d1d6mrmdu7ztse.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/staging-discuss.dev.twitch.com/cronzzz/32/2512_2.png) [@cronzzz](https://staging-discuss.dev.twitch.com/u/cronzzz)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 2:27pm UTC](https://staging-discuss.dev.twitch.com/t/no-usernotice-messages-subcribers-on-pubsub/10509/3 "2017-05-29T14:27:44Z")
I’ll try to add commands cap, but not sure it will affect anything. IRC parser - i’m using pircbot ---
**Author:** ![3ventic](https://d1d6mrmdu7ztse.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/staging-discuss.dev.twitch.com/3ventic/32/298_2.png) [@3ventic](https://staging-discuss.dev.twitch.com/u/3ventic)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 3:41pm UTC](https://staging-discuss.dev.twitch.com/t/no-usernotice-messages-subcribers-on-pubsub/10509/4 "2017-05-29T15:41:20Z")
You need `twitch.tv/commands` capability to get the `USERNOTICE` and `twitch.tv/tags` to have its tags included in it. See [commands cap docs](https://dev.twitch.tv/docs/v5/guides/irc/#twitch-irc-capability-commands) ---
**Author:** ![BarryCarlyon](https://d1d6mrmdu7ztse.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/staging-discuss.dev.twitch.com/barrycarlyon/32/253_2.png) [@BarryCarlyon](https://staging-discuss.dev.twitch.com/u/BarryCarlyon)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 4:25pm UTC](https://staging-discuss.dev.twitch.com/t/no-usernotice-messages-subcribers-on-pubsub/10509/5 "2017-05-29T16:25:06Z")
hehe I missed that in my pre-coffee state ---
**Author:** ![cronzzz](https://d1d6mrmdu7ztse.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/staging-discuss.dev.twitch.com/cronzzz/32/2512_2.png) [@cronzzz](https://staging-discuss.dev.twitch.com/u/cronzzz)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2017, 10:24pm UTC](https://staging-discuss.dev.twitch.com/t/no-usernotice-messages-subcribers-on-pubsub/10509/6 "2017-05-31T22:24:27Z")
Thanks, @3ventic, now i see USERNOTICEs, but miss sub notices. I’ll try to work with PubSub as @BarryCarlyon suggested. ---
**Author:** ![cronzzz](https://d1d6mrmdu7ztse.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/staging-discuss.dev.twitch.com/cronzzz/32/2512_2.png) [@cronzzz](https://staging-discuss.dev.twitch.com/u/cronzzz)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2017, 12:11am UTC](https://staging-discuss.dev.twitch.com/t/no-usernotice-messages-subcribers-on-pubsub/10509/7 "2017-06-01T00:11:00Z")
Okay, so. Now my question switched to PubSub. Is it correct that i receive channel-subscribe-events-v1 only after user click “SHARE”? What if user will never click it? ---
**Author:** ![Muddr](https://d1d6mrmdu7ztse.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/staging-discuss.dev.twitch.com/muddr/32/1877_2.png) [@Muddr](https://staging-discuss.dev.twitch.com/u/Muddr)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2017, 2:27am UTC](https://staging-discuss.dev.twitch.com/t/no-usernotice-messages-subcribers-on-pubsub/10509/8 "2017-06-01T02:27:14Z")
That is correct for PubSub and USERNOTICEs. It’s only sent if they hit share. If they don’t then nothing comes through and the only way to know is polling the API with the correct Auth for the sub list. ---
**Author:** ![cronzzz](https://d1d6mrmdu7ztse.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/staging-discuss.dev.twitch.com/cronzzz/32/2512_2.png) [@cronzzz](https://staging-discuss.dev.twitch.com/u/cronzzz)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2017, 2:43am UTC](https://staging-discuss.dev.twitch.com/t/no-usernotice-messages-subcribers-on-pubsub/10509/9 "2017-06-01T02:43:25Z")
very, very bad 😕 thanks ---
**Author:** ![BarryCarlyon](https://d1d6mrmdu7ztse.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/staging-discuss.dev.twitch.com/barrycarlyon/32/253_2.png) [@BarryCarlyon](https://staging-discuss.dev.twitch.com/u/BarryCarlyon)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2017, 5:41pm UTC](https://staging-discuss.dev.twitch.com/t/no-usernotice-messages-subcribers-on-pubsub/10509/10 "2017-06-01T17:41:57Z")
> [@cronzzz](#): > > What if user will never click it? The user chose to lurk sub. The user doesn’t want their sub to be recognised by the streamer. ---
**Author:** ![cronzzz](https://d1d6mrmdu7ztse.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/staging-discuss.dev.twitch.com/cronzzz/32/2512_2.png) [@cronzzz](https://staging-discuss.dev.twitch.com/u/cronzzz)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2017, 5:58pm UTC](https://staging-discuss.dev.twitch.com/t/no-usernotice-messages-subcribers-on-pubsub/10509/11 "2017-06-01T17:58:04Z")
Sounds logical ---
**Author:** ![system](https://d2spem0quai2ol.cloudfront.net/original/2X/0/05909729875cce3b53e59d5561c4d23bb14948fc.png) [@system](https://staging-discuss.dev.twitch.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 6:05pm UTC](https://staging-discuss.dev.twitch.com/t/no-usernotice-messages-subcribers-on-pubsub/10509/12 "2017-07-01T18:05:55Z")
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