# New Twitch API subscription date

**URL:** <https://staging-discuss.dev.twitch.com/t/new-twitch-api-subscription-date/28010>\
**Category:** API\
**Created:** [September 2, 2020, 5:22pm UTC](https://staging-discuss.dev.twitch.com/t/new-twitch-api-subscription-date/28010 "2020-09-02T17:22:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![Marek\_Klofac](https://d1d6mrmdu7ztse.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/staging-discuss.dev.twitch.com/marek_klofac/32/10123_2.png) [@Marek\_Klofac](https://staging-discuss.dev.twitch.com/u/Marek_Klofac)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2020, 5:22pm UTC](https://staging-discuss.dev.twitch.com/t/new-twitch-api-subscription-date/28010/1 "2020-09-02T17:22:31Z")

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Hey guys!

was looking through the reference and just wanted to verify. The only way to get the date of started subscription of specific user is to use old v5 Twitch API and it cannot be done in New Twitch API?

Thanks in advance for clarification!

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**Author:** ![BarryCarlyon](https://d1d6mrmdu7ztse.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/staging-discuss.dev.twitch.com/barrycarlyon/32/253_2.png) [@BarryCarlyon](https://staging-discuss.dev.twitch.com/u/BarryCarlyon)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2020, 5:26pm UTC](https://staging-discuss.dev.twitch.com/t/new-twitch-api-subscription-date/28010/2 "2020-09-02T17:26:38Z")

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> [@Marek\_Klofac](#):
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> The only way to get the date of started subscription of specific user is to use old v5 Twitch API and it cannot be done in New Twitch API?

It cannot be done in either API

The date created in Kraken isn’t reliable to determine months subscribed. As it only represents “time since last gap/error in payments”, not the _true_ start date

We have a uservoice open for helix subs to return tenure data here

> **[Subs Tenure in Helix](https://twitch.uservoice.com/forums/310213-developers/suggestions/37659133-subs-tenure-in-helix)**
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> We would like subs tenure in Helix in order to use this for merch extensions providing tenure-based merch options.

Currently the only way to get months subscribed is to capture it in real time when the user resubscribes, from chat or pubsub

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**Author:** ![Marek\_Klofac](https://d1d6mrmdu7ztse.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/staging-discuss.dev.twitch.com/marek_klofac/32/10123_2.png) [@Marek\_Klofac](https://staging-discuss.dev.twitch.com/u/Marek_Klofac)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2020, 5:35pm UTC](https://staging-discuss.dev.twitch.com/t/new-twitch-api-subscription-date/28010/3 "2020-09-02T17:35:08Z")

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Thanks. I am aware of this, that the subscription is only the latest and in my case it is not a problem.

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**Author:** ![system](https://d2spem0quai2ol.cloudfront.net/original/2X/0/05909729875cce3b53e59d5561c4d23bb14948fc.png) [@system](https://staging-discuss.dev.twitch.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2020, 5:35pm UTC](https://staging-discuss.dev.twitch.com/t/new-twitch-api-subscription-date/28010/4 "2020-10-02T17:35:12Z")

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