Missing scope: channel:read: subscriptions or channel_subscriptions

Sorry the thread is already closed, but I encountered the same issue. How is it then possible that there are bigger external twitch statistics page with subscriber counts even tho the user don’t actually gave them their permission? I mean it’s possible to get the followers I dont quite understand why the subscriber count would need their permission too. I understand that you would need that to get the actual user that subscribed, but for the total_count too?