Thank you for the clarification. I will try to work with the chat then.
But isn’t there a way to obtain at least the total number of subscribers of a channel?
I found out about https://api.twitch.tv/helix/subscriptions but it still requires channel:read:subscriptions so I guess I cannot use it for getting the subscribers of any channel 
Additionally, subscribers are also considered followers? For example, if someone new subscribes will the followers counter increment?